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    if you lower the mounting point on the axle you will lower the rear roll center. if you mount the frame side higher you will raise the rear roll center. raising it will give more oversteer. if thats what you want then all is good.

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    are you talking about weight? i want as much rear grip as possible.
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    What?
    that means lower the axle side of the panhard, then you will gain more lateral grip in the rear.

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    is it 20 pounds?
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    Shut up joel!

    re read what he posted Paul, I dont understand how it would be different?

    My car currently is lowered to the point where the axle side mount is 1-2 inches higher than the body side mount. I want to have it the other way around!
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    Think about where the forces act on the tires compared to the reaction force of the panhard bar. If the panhard bar is lower, there is less twisting force trying to jack the tire up on one side. Result is more equal cornering loads on each back tire. Equals more grip.

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    Even if a guy lifts?
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    Even if a guy lifts.

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    But do you even lift?

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    It lifts for self?

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    Woah science. I like this. Low it goes!
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    This is handy. They even put it in terms i could understand and would not get bored by.

    http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ll-center.aspx

    "Believe it or not, a drift car is perhaps one of the cars most sensitive to roll center location."

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    ****ing mike kojimi.
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    Lulz. Hi I'm Mike Kojima. You may know me as the reason why Formula D cars are ugly and raked the wrong way. Because drifting is all about science, not style.

    Also, Daigo Saito is wrong. But he won. But he's still wrong.
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    I have a love/Hate Kojima complex
    He actually tells us things in laymans terms, so we can better our cars.
    But ya Daigo, his car shouldnt work, but it does, but Its still wrong.

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    Haha I don't care what he says is the right way to do it as long as they explain why things do what they do and then i can **** with it.

    As far as Daigo's sus setup and squat anti-squat, roll centers etc, could you guy post up where you are seeing he setup info that flys in the face of Mike Ihadachampionshipcaroneyearbut****thebedthisyear Kojima.
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    So, I was going to ask how you like the new upper 4link mounts.
    And did you do the panhard lower?
    But I hear you broke an axle, too much grip now? Zenki or kouki axles?

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    The new rear mounts worked out all too good. I h e a few inches of clean travel now and the thing is pretty hairy on tires the used to be ice. I only got to run some 195 duruns, still waiting to try 595s. I have a new axle housing i'm working on to put in soon.

    It's a zenki rear end, broke exactly where you think it would. I'm going to try a spool and see if ditching some spline slop will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren View Post
    The new rear mounts worked out all too good. I h e a few inches of clean travel now and the thing is pretty hairy on tires the used to be ice. I only got to run some 195 duruns, still waiting to try 595s. I have a new axle housing i'm working on to put in soon.

    It's a zenki rear end, broke exactly where you think it would. I'm going to try a spool and see if ditching some spline slop will help.
    Spool is a good idea.

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    So its got more forward grip now?
    Who else has broken an axle with 4age?

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