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    Love this build. I think he might be onto something trying to move away from the sw20 tails in efforts to make it look like a new model. I think the frs taillights would look alot better tinted to tone them down, at night they kinda look like little ferrari lights or something. The sw20 taillights would suit a car like the sard mr2 more than what op has envisioned for his project. I think the rear mockup is decent, if the lights were darker and had like a plastic bar running between them or something, also less mesh grille below them it would look sharp. I think the end result will be something very lotus-like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3184life View Post
    You obviously have a vision to what this car will look like.
    I personally would sway a little further from the frs design. Not because it doesn't look good, but because some people who haven't followed your thread may write off all your hard work, as just another kit car. This is obviously not the case, but "the internet" may think you have may a incorrect copy of a frs, instead of seeing that you have in fact designed your own car and incorporated oem style
    To be honest, I kind of hope people initially see frs; they'll think its modified first, then be very confused for the rest of the day as the v8 note rattles their brains. My aesthetic goal is definitely more focused now and having the frs styling in there is a big part of the end goal like you said. I'm not afraid of what people will say

    Quote Originally Posted by clay72 View Post
    I think the hardest part is finding a complete straight FRS parts car and being able to afford it.

    And I am against it for selfish reasons because I am convinced it would take at least a year, probably more to completely rebody the MR2 that way and get all the gaps and fitment right, and I want to see this car get done. But as has been said, it's your car, time, and money.

    I run out of patience just thinking about reskinning the doors like you'll have to. And having to create new mounting structures to mount all the pannels. You'll really need a whole undamaged FRS. Or 2, each with one end smacked up.
    Doors aren't going to be reskinned, that weird body line in the frs door isn't going to be there unless it creates some sort of discontinuity in the styling, but I think the swoop towards the quarter panel intake on the bottom of the door should help me accomplish that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
    Along with the rest, I think that retaining the sw20 tails would be ideal... Keep them high and as far apart as possible, the wide stance will be emphasized by the wide set of the smaller lights, lending itself to a very modified mr2 look. From an artistic standpoint, it will look more natural (but by all means, do what you feel is best, since, so far your choices have not let you [or us] down).
    Ive been spending a lot of time looking at the mc8r and I think the reason the stretched tails work so well is because of the width the mc8r achieves. I can't go that wide, it's not feasible. The car has to look somewhat stock, like toyota designed, but new. I want to bring the MR2 into the new generation. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE mr2s, I may be a little crazy like that, and I'll own an oem looking mk2 again and definitely an mk3 at some point, so sw20 tails will still be around

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardon View Post
    Love this build. I think he might be onto something trying to move away from the sw20 tails in efforts to make it look like a new model. I think the frs taillights would look alot better tinted to tone them down, at night they kinda look like little ferrari lights or something. The sw20 taillights would suit a car like the sard mr2 more than what op has envisioned for his project. I think the rear mockup is decent, if the lights were darker and had like a plastic bar running between them or something, also less mesh grille below them it would look sharp. I think the end result will be something very lotus-like.
    I'm definitely tinting the tails, my gf hates them clear, but loves them red lol, I just ran out of time at work to finish the photoshop yesterday... What do you mean by a plastic bar running between them? Like under the trunk edge? I tried a few different mesh shapes, still undecided as the mesh directly below the taillights would be visual only and non functional.

    I see what everyone is saying about the sw20 tails, I'm just having a hard time seeing it work in my head. Anyone want to volunteer a photoshop of the sw20 tails?

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    PS - I wanted to say thanks for all the honest feedback on the bodywork from you guys. This is a difficult build (in a psychological way as well that I never expected), and having people giving opinions and support has been a huge help. I wish I could satisfy everyone with this build, but thankfully car culture/style is not that uniform, and that's precisely why I'm still here fantasizing about 6 cylinder mid-rear boxer-engine swaps in my head while I'm still elbow deep in three other builds that excite just as many people as they anger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by widebodystarlet View Post
    ... I'm still here fantasizing about 6 cylinder mid-rear boxer-engine swaps in my head
    I VOTE THIS AS NEXT WIDEBODYSTARLET SWAP!!!

    subaru parts?

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    I think any way you go it will look and be an amazing car....we're really just discussing the icing on the cake so to speak...but you're right...everyone will have an opinion...but its yours that matters most...
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    I vote for TRD 2000GT style but without pop up lights...

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    ^^^ There's a million of those fibreglass kits available, I don't like them, they don't look like the ACTUAL TRD 2000gt.

    Subaru parts, diff-locked 5speed sti box...... turbo????

    Edit: btw my next swap is the 2j celica, but that is a quick one. The boxer-swap is seriously close to this v8 swaps level of fabrication and frame-cutting bravery.

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    fuel lines, brake lines, fuel filter, coolant lines all done now. Just have to mount my lines and the engine will be coming out for engine bay refinishing before wiring and bodywork can begin. So close, I just wish I had more free time to be in the garage working on the car instead of working to afford to build it lol.

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    I've been busy working away on the mr2. Dropped the engine so I can finish the cosmetics in the engine bay, as well as get the timing belt done and the clutch installed. I filmed a clip of how I get the engine out in this thing (not much different than the v6 really).










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    I did a lot of grinding and sanding and welding this weekend to clean up the engine bay. It's ready for seam sealer, some body work, and paint. But first I plan on finishing the quarter panels so I can do most of the rear seam sealer and paint in one shot. I just have to find out how much the engine/trans combo weigh so I can load the car up and find my wheel arch lines. Just a few shots of the car outside after grinding and welding, easier to clean the garage when she's outside




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    Man I love this build! I feel so fortunate to see it up close. Doug, you are doing an outstanding job! BTW, thanks for the couch and thanks to Paulline and your mom for breakfast sandwiches!
    This car is going to b amazing.... maybe you should drive it out this way when it's done to show it off!
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    Thanks Sean. I forgot to ask: who made the better breakfast sandwich??? lol

    As far as exposure goes, we'll see how much attention it gets when it's done to decide whether I'd make any long distance trips... And as long as it's not deafening loud haha.

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    Started the quarter panels today, they're fitting great so far. I hope to have them both welded on by the 20th if all goes well. Three shots of the test fit after trimming:




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    speechless... Are those metal? reproduction frs quaters for accident repairs?

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    OEM toyota panels, direct from the dealer

    I cut all the structure for the door sill and quarter window out, hacked off the c-pillar to fill in the areas next to my hatch on the mr2 c-pillar, and sliced the lower front portion in front of the wheel as the FR-S seems to be about 4-6 inches taller than the mr2 from rocker pinch-weld to roof line. It all turned out much better than I thought and about the most difficult part is going to be making the bodyline between the quarter and the trunk look proper. The blending at the front of the quarter looks easy as pie at the moment. The rear panelling is really up in the air at the moment as well, I dont think my suicide hatch will clear the taillights so I'll probably have to mess around with that once I get there.

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    This build is so awesome. I even have my gf following it. Her favorite car is Audi r8 and I showed her this and she loves it. Every time I see the title in recent posts I'm like yay new pictures. Then when it's comments like mine I'm like dammit. Lol. Very nice man. Cannot wait to see this come further. Definetly respect your talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by widebodystarlet View Post
    Thanks Sean. I forgot to ask: who made the better breakfast sandwich??? lol

    As far as exposure goes, we'll see how much attention it gets when it's done to decide whether I'd make any long distance trips... And as long as it's not deafening loud haha.
    Truthfully, Paulline's was better because she used the better cheese.... I hope you don't tell your mom lol!! EDIT... but they were both good.


    The FRS panels are looking like they fit really well.
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    LOL @ reason for edit. Thanks Sean.

    Just want some feedback on exhaust design. I really like the aftermarket 458 styles as they suit this kind of build perfectly, I was thinking of copying this first design (to stay away from solenoids and wastegate actuated bypass valving; ie simplicity), but the other designs have me intrigued as well. I'm mostly just wondering what you guys think of this "balance bar" cross-over. It seems to me that it could cause unwanted back pressure; where FabSpeed says it helps achieve higher torque numbers than the factory style exhausts below. Thoughts?






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    If you look at the firing order of a split plane V8 the exhaust pulses at the two collectors aren't evenly sequenced (it's not like two 4 cylinder engines side by side), perhaps the crossover tube helps alleviate the pressure fluctuations...

    certainly I know V8's with X pipes sound more like japanese motorcycles on viagra than V8's without. and nothing is more important than japanese bikes on viagra.

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    Quarter panels attached 50%...






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