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    you know I was told to cut those if I wanted to go lower, but the cautious side of me decided not to. I ran those when I wanted a tad bit of gap and comfort over the koni race shocks. I meant to do sw20 rear yellows 6kg / 4kg daily and 8/6 koni race / bilstein rear track car. I went a little over budget and now I'm at a compromise with 1 car 6/6 sorta do it all well but not amazing car. I'd like to know if those could be cut too

    so when it comes to cutting your strut, you gotta keep in
    mind the overall height of the shock vs height of the car. since we don't have real coilovers we can't really achieve the proper zero preload on the springs at whatever height we want. I cut my koni 1437 to fit, I should have spaced the bottom 2cm because it's a bit too low to run 205/50r15 and rubs like a bitch but #hellaflush #fashionoverfunction
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    These bottoms aren't cut then? Edit: Nevermind. They are not cut says google images.

    Here's Duy's old thread on the SW20 insert subject: http://www.dorikaze.net/showthread.p...6-Strut-casing
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    There are only two lengths of "8610" race shocks, the 1436 and 1437. They only have a stroke difference of 10mm but a body difference 42mm.
    Please note that "race" "sport" and "yellows" are different, I'm only talking about the "race"

    http://www.koniracing.com/8611.cfm#8610

    When people talk about short stroke shocks most will say HTS are too short or some other nonsense. Check out how short the 1436 body is compared to the HTS, look closer and see the best part, the konis have a longer stroke!





    I had a bunch of strut housings to play with so I wanted to try something out. Run the super short konis with no spacer. I did some measuring and ended up cutting about 3.8" or 98mm out of the strut housings (which is a lot). I even had to cut the brake line tabs off (gasp!) so the coilover sleeve could get low enough.


    The short ones are for the short konis without a spacer while the longer ones are for HTS without a spacer. I did however make some spacers the fit the konis into the HTS sized housings if I ever needed to run them that way. (if that made sense haha)







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    This is as HIGH as the car will go in the front with the 8610-1436race's

    Its low but THAT low. That being said I could slam it and still have more usable stroke then most.


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    What Derek posted is what me and Matt T also run.
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    Are you going drifting? Don't get Koni. Way too much grip.
    Like everyone says, it's night and day compared to any other shock. I was looking for some more grip in the back, and found it. Way way too much. Couldn't hold shallow angle anymore because the rear would just grip and pull in. I ended up cranking them as stiff as they would go to feel like HTS again. I'll run them on my street car.
    (This was on a track layout with a 100' ebrake drag down a straight into a tight 90. Paulmango and I had the worst day of our lives trying to actually drift instead of just drag)

    Unless you run a 195 like all these clowns... Or have actual driving skill, because I don't.


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    So looking at the insert heights to the middle of their stroke:

    1436: 361.5mm. Total travel 143
    1437: 408mm. Total travel 153
    1221 Sport: 448mm. Total travel 168

    Stock E70: 469mm. Total travel ?

    Don't miss that Derek said his car is adjusted high...
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-rock View Post

    Don't miss that Derek said his car is adjusted high...
    Whatever you need to make you feel good about going non-adjustable.

    Also who would want to go higher?

    But really if you did, you can just apply your brain and go "hey the 1437 are 42mm taller hummm that means the highest will be about 42mm taller then the 1436" You can even apply that same theory to the other taller shock bodies out there with the same results.

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    Just for reference yo.

    Shocks should generally be in the middle of their travel... so adding 46.5mm (which is the actual difference) to that picture doesn't equal 1437s in their sweet spot is what I'm saying. Anyway....
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    so what i am hearing is koni race short stroke in the front with full coilover and trd in the rear shocks and springs

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    Fun fact! TRD rears are made by KYB, and have the adjuster in the same place as AGX.....

    Fronts are made by tokico.

    Monroe has a dope website with all the dimensions of every shock so you can get crazy for the rear shocks OAL and compressed height then buy something for a model that corresponds.

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    so

    1436 or 1437

    for mostly city driving

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    1437 if you want a useable street ride height.
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    theres a guy on Amazon UNPC selling pair for 270 usd. I'll let you know ift hey are fake !!

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    That price is ungodly cheap. I hope they work out for u!
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    Amazing posts Derek! <3
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